LO is almost 4 weeks. Time for an update!
MamaKh wrote:After hopefully barely reaching the top of the PT hill with #1, at 35 months
Ha ha! What a joke. That was just one of many plateaus. DS1 currently (the past few days) recognize that he needs to pee and does so at the toilet, when at home. Diapers at pre school and insits on pooping in a diaper. We have at least managed to changing the poop room from the guest room to the bathroom!
So, even more encouraged by that I started EC with DS2 at 3 days. He is not diaper free (yet), cloth at daytime and so far disposables when out and over night. Just like RR this is what we are doing now:
RedRum wrote: I'm mostly making it up as I go along but for me it's a mixture of knowing when he's likely to go (immediately after waking up, during/after a feed, or right after I take his nappy off ) and following his curs so like DF said if he fusses in the sling or when I'm holding him I know it's probably toilet related. His hungry cry is very different (high pitched/shrill/urgent) to fussing for a we or straining for a poo.
Using timing (at wake ups, and about 15 min after a feed) and looking for him signaling, and have found fussing, squirming, and a high pitch demanding "A!" cry indicating poop/pee need, whereas crying more in dispart/urgen "a-a-a-a-!" meaning need for milk. DH was sceptic at start and said "don't torture the baby" when he was fussing over the sink, and DS2 immediately responded with a huge poop

When he wakes up midst nap or has a hard time falling asleep taking him to pee seems to do the trick and he quickly goes back to sleep, sometimes even without nursing. We have had a lot of wet and dirty diapers but the past 2 nights this seems to have changed. 2 nights ago only sprinkles in the diaper, and pee. Last night DS2 fell asleep after finally getting all his poop out, at 9:30. I tried to wake him to pee when I went to bed at midnight but he slept right through it, so I laid him back down (same dry diaper). He woke up at 3 am, still a dry diaper (!!) and I held him over a bowl (while sitting in bed). He then did a huge pee, same diaper back on, nursed for 10 min and fell back asleep. Was then fussing for another 40 min, tried feeding/pee until a big burp did the trick. Woke up at 6:30 still dry but with a little poop in the diaper. I find it amazing that he had a dry diaper for 5,5 hours and also slept the same interval, no feeds!

(DS1 used to wake me up ever 2 hours, and when at the worst, every 45 min!)
After being up for 4 hours today, we are still on the 3rd diaper, and have put him to pee successfully 4 times wearing the last diaper.
We are using cuing sounds "kisssss" for peeing and "un-gah" (apparently the sound used in Korea) when he poops and also when we put him in position to tell hi we are ready. I am amazed but at this young age we notice that he waits for this, and to be undressed before going and this keeps him very much at peace. It also seems that he now has stopped peeing and pooping very often in his sleep, he will at least wake up to light sleep so if we are there we can help him.
DandelionFrosting wrote: It really does explain a LOT -- why they wake at night, why it's sometimes really hard to get them to sleep, why they sometimes cry and cry and demand to be taken out of a carrier or car seat, only to be perfectly fine with being put back in a few minutes later. It sounds crazy, but it helped with sleep a LOT.
This.
I also remember that DS1 stopped poping in his sleep at 6 weeks, and peeing in sleep at 8 weeks. Unfortunately I didn't know to do this with him, and I see a lot of the fussiness he did the early months explained now. That being said, he is also learning now and maybe has taken some inspiration from his little brother since we seem to have some flow now. I also use the queuing "kisss" for him, and it seems to help him too to release! weird as it is, they are sort of on the same page here!
It is time-consuming to be so attentive all the time, especially with a 3 yr old at home, or say when cooking dinner, but also very rewarding when it works. We also have opened our minds up to what this little baby really understands and is aware of, and DH, DS1 and I are all communication with each other what we think that DS2 wants and what of his signals we interpreted. DS1 is really cool and as soon as the LO is fussing/crying he asks "what does the baby want?" and sometimes comes with his own guesses. I am convinced that just as with BLW and BF on demand this will help us respect and get to know our new family member much quicker. It's great to have another tool that just boobs to help LO feel good! And yes, DH is convinced though flabbergasted still.
We are not really sure how to introduce this to the world around us, as we think people might find us crazy/hard to believe. I tell my crunchiest friends, especially the ones expecting/w small babies. And when away have asked to use the bathroom and put LO over the toilet (aposed to the sink that we use at home). That has worked as well.
And yes RR on the trajectory of a small boys pee! Once straight up, and what a range! I am now positioning my self so that if we have a miss in the bathroom sink it will hit the soap dispenser rather than our toothbrushes! LOL (as we are in the bottom line thread I feel free to be... free spoken. Pees and Poops are just a major part of my every day life now!)
Have a nice day everyone!