Weight gain worries/rant

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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby Kanga » 23 Jan 2015, 16:06

I've just been to the drop in clinic & could honestly cry with relief! First off she looked at the growth chart & said 'he hasn't crossed over 2 centiles so we wouldn't be that worrried'. She asked about his tongue & checked for a tongue tie before I asked her about it. She said he's obviously happy & alert and was happy with his nappy frequency etc, so basically confirmed everytging I'd already thiught. She then watched him latch & adjusted him very slightly but mostly said she was happy.

She said if anything it's more to do with me being busy & him not getting as much focused feeding time as a first baby would. As I left she said 'keep going, you're brilliant' which was just what I needed to hear. She said she doesn't think I need to see the feeding specialist but I'll see how we're getting on next week.
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby Ali70 » 23 Jan 2015, 16:31

Hurrah for sensible midwives :-)
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby nearlymumtobabyfk » 23 Jan 2015, 18:29

So pleased to read that Kanga :) hoorah for sensible support
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby FestiveTidings » 23 Jan 2015, 20:04

That's brilliant Kanga. Thank goodness for common sense!
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby pimento » 23 Jan 2015, 22:15

Brilliant, so please to read this update :)
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby EnigmaFish » 24 Jan 2015, 01:09

That's great! I was worried when I read your first post that you might get trapped in the same weight-obsessed system we're in. So glad to hear you're getting sensible advice from the beginning.
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby Kanga » 24 Jan 2015, 03:18

EnigmaFish wrote:That's great! I was worried when I read your first post that you might get trapped in the same weight-obsessed system we're in. So glad to hear you're getting sensible advice from the beginning.


My thoughts went to you when they started saying he wasn't gaining enough. How is newt doing now?
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby EnigmaFish » 25 Jan 2015, 00:09

That's really sweet of you to think of us!
I think she's doing great. She's a happy, well-developed six-month old who is still on the 2nd centile. Okay, she was born on the 50th... but she's not losing weight (she's gaining) and she's not losing centiles any more.
The tongue-tie release has definitely made a difference, for us. She sticks her tongue out all the time now, and thinks it's great fun. I can hear more swallowing and I can tell there's more milk.
I think she's doing great. My public health nurse is still worried about her.
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby Kanga » 25 Jan 2015, 21:38

It's great to hear you sounding so positive EF :) From your pics on fb she looks perfect!

I am torn now with never wanting to get him weighed again but also wanting to see what he's doing. Might resort to rough weights at home rather than seeing the hv!
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby EnigmaFish » 25 Jan 2015, 23:10

I wanted to expand on what I said yesterday, so I just sat down at the computer to see your previous posts better (than on my phone) and write a little easier.

The main difference I can see with your experience and mine is that pretty much from the beginning, it's been recommended to me to give her formula and I've resisted that. I've been suggesting to them that it might be ten or so other things and they weren't listening - just kept pushing formula. If I had to do this all again (God forbid) I wouldn't keep saying "she's fine" and brushing them off as much as I did. I would be saying, "formula isn't an acceptable answer. Suggest something else." I would have pushed earlier for better help, from LLL, from the independent LC I saw in the end, from anyone.

If you want to keep an eye on his weight, and nothing more, then I think you're best to just track your own weights at home. It's not hugely important to you what he weighs, moreso how much he has or hasn't gained. You can track that yourself at home. Just do them around the same time of day/week so that you're comparing like with like.

In case anyone else should come along and read this and be worried about their baby's weight, I just wanted to round off my story by saying Newt never had any of the stereotypical signs of tongue-tie. Her latch was always excellent and I never had any pain. The problem was that she wasn't able to extract milk efficiently. She got some, so she wasn't roaring with hunger, but she didn't get enough to grow. It's only now that we have had the tongue-tie released that I can see it was there before. If you're worried about tongue-tie get a second opinion, or maybe even a third.
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby Kanga » 05 Feb 2015, 11:44

Well this week we've seen the feeding 'specialist' who wasn't that useful. Ds2 has put on 120g in 2 weeks rather than 20g a day they think he should. I am now wondering about a posterior tongue tie & your last paragraph rings true EF. I had a read at symptoms of tongue tie & while I don't have pain/he appears to have a good latch etc he has some symptoms like gas. Frequent feeding etc.

People keep saying to me he can't be hungry he's not screaming but like you said ef, I think he's got enough not to be hungry but not enough to grow much. I don't know if I'm grasping at straws & seeing things that aren't there or whether I should push the hv for a referral. But then he gained well when he was first born so I just don't know!

Fwiw the feeding clinic just sat make sure he's getting a good latch, offer both sides (although he'll rarely take both) and get him weighed in a month.
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby lisbeth » 05 Feb 2015, 13:00

My DS had a tongue tie. It was vaguely alluded to in hospital by the midwife (so DH recalls - I was a bit out of it), but they didn't think it was a problem. However,I'd come across other babies where a Tt had caused a range of problems, so I asked the Gp to refer us at DS 6 week check. We didn't get an appointment until 10 weeks, and as he'd followed his centile line until that point and never seemed ravenously hungry, I half expected the consultant to say it wasn't bad. It turned out that in his opinion it was pretty severe, and the tie was snipped.

The results weren't instant, but in a few weeks DS was a different baby - instead of feeding every couple of hours, only taking one side, and sleeping loads, he suddenly seemed to feed more strongly, dropped to feeds every 3 or 4 hours, always took both sides, and seemed to have more energy. I think it was just really hard work for him, and that he fed enough to sleep, then slept enough to have energy to feed. The Tt snip didn't really make much difference to his windyness, or the frequency of his night waking, though he was back in bed much more quickly.

Maybe it was just our gp, but I didn't really have to justify the request. I know there's a time limit for the snip to be done without general anaesthetic, but I don't remember what it is. For DS the procedure was trivial - I think he was more bothered by the Dr's fingers in his mouth.

I seem to know so many people whose babies have had tongue ties, often not spotted, that I really wish it was something that was looked for more seriously, even if the baby seems to latch ok, gain weight etc.

Sorry - that was a lot longer than I expected.

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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby Kanga » 05 Feb 2015, 14:00

Not at all, that's really good to read. When I fed him at the clinic they asked me to offer the second side & he just kept coming off & grinning at me so I can only assume he's not hungry.

My lovely friend is coming to visit next week so I'm going to ask her to put her hv hat on briefly & look for a tongue tie etc then decide what to do from there. My dh said they wouldn't have said get him weighed in a month if they were concerned, which is probably true, just depends if he's maintaining his centile still then I guess.
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby lisbeth » 05 Feb 2015, 14:35

Grinning sounds good - my DS would just fall asleep. If the clinic aren't overly concerned and you have friend who can look for a tie, hopefully everyone will be reassured soon. Maybe he is just destined to be small as I think you said right at the start!
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby Kanga » 05 Feb 2015, 19:45

I need to keep telling myself that. Dh is 5'9" and only 9stone (or less) so ds2 is probably going to be like him.

Now I just have to fight off the people saying he needs solid food - as if that'll help his weight gain!! Grrr
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