Weight gain worries/rant

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Weight gain worries/rant

Postby Kanga » 21 Jan 2015, 22:18

I took ds2 to clinic today & wish I hadn't as we have ended up being referred to a breast feeding specialist.

Ds2 has only put on 580g in 6 weeks and dropped from between 50th & 25th to 9th centile (he was born 50th). Rationally I'm not worried, he has plenty of nappies and dirty ones are yellow, he's very smily & chatty & having more awake periods these days.

However, my nipples are a bit sore so the health visitor said he must not be latching on properly. He is clamping his gums and twisting his head a lot so I though I was just bruised. It doesn't hurt when he's actually feeding & my nipples aren't a funny shape after a feed, as far as I can tell!!

Kind of hoping if we see the specialist his weight will be different & there was something wrong with the scales today. I don't mind seeing her if she has useful advice or says everything's fine, its just frustrating to be here when I've fed the other 2 with no problems. Maybe he's just destined to be little!
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby mamapup » 21 Jan 2015, 22:29

I had a few friends whose kids dropped from 50th to 9th. They were referred, we're devastated and thenext relieved when nothing was wrong.

I'm sorry, that socks. You know your child best and I hope you see someone sensible.who understands this.
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby Marrow » 22 Jan 2015, 05:43

Huge hugs, Kanga.

Is it helpful to think of it this way:? far too many people get poor advice from HVs who don't really know what they are talking about. Your HV is at least admitting ignorance at the slightest indication that there might possibly be a problem, and referring you on. If everyone they referred had a problem, they wouldn't be ignorant. So don't stress, carry on feeding, and wait to have a chat with the expert.
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby Kanga » 22 Jan 2015, 09:31

Thanks both of you, that is reassuring mp & matron you are right, they are probably just covering themselves in case there is something else going on. I woke up thinking about tongue ties but I don't think that is it.

Thankfully I have a uni friend who is now a hv so I sent her a long email last night. Rather than my hv saying 'make sure his mouth is wide' my friend has sent detailed advice of how to make sure his latch is ok etc. she also asked if they did his length which of course they didn't! It also occurred to me that surely they should have asked me to feed him so they could at least check but never mind.

My friend said the clamping & twisting could be frustration at the flow not being fast enough which again no-one suggested yesterday, so she has said maybe try breast compression while he's feeding. So I'll try the things she's suggested while I wait to speak with the feeding advisor and see how we go.
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby mamapup » 22 Jan 2015, 09:36

Lucky you to have a helpful hv friend. Glad you're sounding more positive.
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby emzit » 22 Jan 2015, 10:13

As far as I remember, they are looking for about 150g a week weight gain - so it's not actually that far off if you look at it on a weekly basis. At least he is gaining so you know the bm is getting in there, just maybe needs a bit of tweaking to get it all down pat.

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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby FestiveTidings » 22 Jan 2015, 10:25

That's really stressful you Kanga. Also remember the clamping and twisting can also be due to fast letdown. Both my boys did this as I let down like a water cannon. But referral is good, just so they can check. It's so much better than suggesting a bottle. Good luck x
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby pimento » 22 Jan 2015, 10:31

We saw a cranial osteopath as well for neck/jaw issues- which could result in clamping and twisting if turning their head is uncomfortable. Just another thought. Hope there's nothing to worry about.
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby Kanga » 22 Jan 2015, 11:00

Thanks emzit, it's good to have a figure to bear in mind, the hv didn't say what he should gain. I said to dh last night at he end of the day he has gained weight just not as fast as he good, but he has gained.

Ft, I also let down like that so all of them have always struggled & been gulping the milk in. You are right too, I am terrified of them saying out him on formula, but the bf specialist isn't going to say that actually is she?! I am sure we can figure it out but I still feel emotional about it. Just need confidence in myself.

I just feel like this is the one thing I/my body is good at and it's not been a problem before. Plus the hv made me feel like 'you're not doing it right but go home & carry on anyway' without any useful advice, until next week at the feeding clinic.
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby emzit » 22 Jan 2015, 11:34

Kanga wrote:I just feel like this is the one thing I/my body is good at and it's not been a problem before. Plus the hv made me feel like 'you're not doing it right but go home & carry on anyway' without any useful advice, until next week at the feeding clinic.


Think of it this way - if she was really worried, if she thought it was something you should be really, desperately concerned about, she wouldn't have done that. She would have got you to see someone sooner or given you some more advice.

You're doing a great job. He is gaining weight. Focus on that for the time being.
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby Kanga » 22 Jan 2015, 11:49

Yes, you're right emzit. He's gaining, he's happy, smily & chatty. If I hadn't gone to the clinic I wouldn't have been worried, so probably I shouldn't be!
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby Kanga » 22 Jan 2015, 13:11

They've just rung with an appointment but not till 3rd feb!!
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby FestiveTidings » 22 Jan 2015, 14:59

Well that's a while a way yet - you can't be an urgent case as Emzit said.

I don't know how we handled the fast letdown. In hindsight I don't think we did. I think the boys just got big enough to handle it. I'm sorry kanga, that's not much use to you. You are good at this and there is no reason to put you on a bottle. I don't think a bf specialist would recommend that! If you are still squirting milk when he pulls off then perhaps have a sterile container near you you can collect it in? You can always offer it to him later - cup/syringe/teaspoon. It doesn't have to be a bottle!

But as had been said before, he's happy and gaining at the end of the day!
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby Ali70 » 22 Jan 2015, 16:48

I didn't have issues with fast letdown but my friend did. She used to stop feeding as soon as she felt it, express off enough milk to calm it down a bit and then put baby back on.

I tend to agree with the others that it sounds like you're both doing brilliantly and this is yet another case of HV obsession with weight doing more harm than good
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Re: Weight gain worries/rant

Postby Kanga » 22 Jan 2015, 20:09

I always have a muslin between us when he feeds so if he comes off when the flow is too much I just let it soak into there for a bit then let him feed.

I've found out the hospital has a drop in feeding clinic tomorrow so I'm going to pop in, just for peace of mind before the other appointment.
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