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Soooo perenial massage anyone???

PostPosted: 31 Dec 2014, 23:13
by nearlymumtobabyfk
I had forgotten about this delight, but friend mentioned it the other day and I'm just wondering if folks have/are doing it. I'm not even sure if I could reach to be honest but I'm in the 'give anything a go' camp when.it comes to prenatal prep...

Re: Soooo perenial massage anyone???

PostPosted: 31 Dec 2014, 23:36
by UnhappyRightFoot
I did a little bit first time round (or rather dh did as I couldn't reach!!!) but not much - and tore. Second time round, i nearly ripped his hand off as the scar was so sensitive!!!! Seriously, I thought he'd taken a knife to me! So a nano second of massage - and a tore, but onky a couple of stitches!

I think it's probably worth doing but doing right - every day for several weeks rather than the on/off way I did it!

Re: Soooo perenial massage anyone???

PostPosted: 31 Dec 2014, 23:53
by nearlymumtobabyfk
I'm just not sure I could even ask dp to do it. Which I realise is ridiculous, but sadly true. I'll have to investigate my flexibility....

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PostPosted: 01 Jan 2015, 00:13
by mamapup
I did both times. Stopped as soon as realised I needed a section with the puppy. Did it second time and tore slightly. Oh god, that sounds awful now, nine months on!

One leg on bed should allow it!

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PostPosted: 01 Jan 2015, 00:17
by Nix
I did it a little bit each time and no tears. Apparently I pushed them all out very carefully and slowly though so that probably did it. My boys had a head circumference of 35.5 and pippa was 34.5.

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PostPosted: 01 Jan 2015, 06:16
by junglewonderland
The research I read said it reduces tearing for the first birth, but on subsequent births it makes no difference. So I did it the first time, found it the most unpleasant thing I could imagine, but happily endured it knowing I would never have to do it again. You're off the hook, I reckon.

Re: Soooo perenial massage anyone???

PostPosted: 01 Jan 2015, 08:27
by Singale
I'm in the "I'll try anything if it might help & couldn't do any harm" camp. A bit of (self-) massage, plus two weeks worth of epi-no sessions.

The massage was uncomfortable, the epi-no excercises less so, until you get to the "giving birth" part. Both times I never managed to get beyond 8.5 cm with the epi-no, but - at least the second time around - it helped me recognise the sensation & helped me to stay in focus in controling Pferdle's descent & head exit so I did not have any tear.

Now thinking back to it, I think the epi-no also helped me with that recognition at Tigerle's birth just in time as otherwise she'd either be born in the loo or on the floor of the birth room's toilet :scream

The "it wouldn't help second time around" opinion about the massage doesn't make sense to me. Surely a moisturizer you apply months ago to your skin wouldn't moisturize your skin today but those that you apply more recently would? The same with excercise, stretch or a massage. You might have done them months ago but after some time the effect will wear off & you'd need to do them again.

Re: Soooo perenial massage anyone???

PostPosted: 01 Jan 2015, 09:57
by Kitcameron
I couldn't bring myself to do it either time and had a minor tear with both but not enough to warrant stitches. We (dh and I) did find that I had a hole in one labia after CMs birth but not sure if it was related or not. Mentioned it to doc and he pulled a 'that's weird' face but said it it wasn't painful or itchy or anything just to see what happened. I don't know if it's still there or not lol

Re: Soooo perenial massage anyone???

PostPosted: 01 Jan 2015, 10:08
by t&n's mummy
Nope I didn't either time, had a small tear that didn't need stitches with t and nothing with n.

Re: Soooo perenial massage anyone???

PostPosted: 01 Jan 2015, 11:30
by nearlymumtobabyfk
Jw - emergency section last time, so I think it prob does still count for me...
Singale - just checked out epi-no. Looks, interesting....
I think I'll def get on the massage - part of my new years pre natal plans, which are now shaping up as, do pelvic floors, massage, eat more iron, remember lactulose, order birth stuff, at least look at old baby stuff soon, do yoga....and on...

Re: Soooo perenial massage anyone???

PostPosted: 01 Jan 2015, 13:58
by Treeb
I'm with jw having heard that it's not needed the second time because you are already stretched from giving birth previously. We did it the first time but not very reliably, and I'm not planning to this time. Only had minor tearing last time.

Re: Soooo perenial massage anyone???

PostPosted: 01 Jan 2015, 14:02
by DandelionFrosting
I did it sporadically bothtimes, but I don't think I really stretched it as much as you're supposed to. It was really uncomfortable. I still tore the first time and had to get an episiotomy the second time, although that might have been more of a precaution because Zilla was breech. So . . . inconclusive. It could be that the massage was useless, or it could be that I was just useless at doing it.
nearlymumtobabyfk wrote: part of my new years pre natal plans, which are now shaping up as, do pelvic floors, massage, eat more iron, remember lactulose, order birth stuff, at least look at old baby stuff soon, do yoga....and on...

That's a lot of stuff to do, especially while pregnant! ::pom poms::

Re: Soooo perenial massage anyone???

PostPosted: 01 Jan 2015, 14:35
by fourweewonders
I never did anything (the whole concept seemed freaky to me) and didnt tear, B was a back to back delivery, I dont know if that might have made me less likely to tear as it to forever to get him through my pelvis the wrong way up so was nice and slow. E popped out like a cork in two pushes the midwife clearly expected me to have done some damage, she did remark something along the lines of "wow you dont even need stitches"

Re: Soooo perenial massage anyone???

PostPosted: 01 Jan 2015, 14:45
by treek
Didn't do it with either of the girls, both were back to back. With Toots I had an episiotomy and tore and this time *just* the episiotomy.